NLSC Forum • The defense is broken (2024)

TGsoGood wrote:Try ShadyMikes sliders. I played as the Grizzlies versus the West allstars. The sliders seem OK for the straight line drives once players start to get tired but I beasted with Marc Gasol the entire 1st quarter driving to the hoop and later in the 3rd I beasted with Deyonta Davis killing Lamarcus Aldridge and then got a few points on Anthony Davis. But when Gasol started to tire KD got a few blocks. Draymond was causing turnovers against Davis. I ended up losing but had fun getting a few highlight dunks with Deyonta Davis.

If I play against non All stars I wonder how much of challenge I could get with these sliders. I think I will keep these sliders for now and test them again later.

Verdict: While getting to the basket was still pretty easy for stretches, there were also a few good stops by the CPU. Sliders are better than default for me but may not resolve the straight line drive issue for more skilled users.

So you are telling me, that an improvement is Marc Gasol beasting on DRIVES to the hoop for an entire quarter, and a 3rd quarter of Deyonta Davis doing the same thing? I'm all set.

I've stated how big of a problem this is many, many times, including showing videos (the most recent one should be quite the eye opener if people's eyes weren't open to it already). I've stated why this is a game breaker for me, knowing in my mind that at any point, at any time, I can have the confidence to just run by my guy to the hoop. No dribbling moves needed, no smarts. Boom, just....run by him. Throw the dribbling controls out the window folks, you don't need them.

You people who are contesting this are playing the same game you know, that stuff I did with the Knicks on the Warriors... you can do that as well. That's not debatable at this point, it's literally on the videos. I cannot get any enjoyment from playing a game that I know any time I want I can run by my guy.

No "well you shouldn't play that way". That's not how this works, my brain doesn't tell me "hey, do dribbling moves that look cool but serve no purpose to get by your guy" my brain tells me "well, just run by him and get to the hoop, he can't do anything to stop you, why do dribble moves?". My brain doesn't say "hey, don't take Leonard to the hoop with Marcus Smart, that wouldn't be realistic", my brain says "Well Leonard can't stay in front of you, nobody can, so you might as well just run by him to the hoop".

You don't fake realism because of a games shortcomings. That is insane. The game should have a semblance of realism that you, the gamer, can adapt to and play with, that's why it's a simulation. I could score 100 points a game with Terry Rozier in in this game, all with straight line drives and win by blowout, you want to tell me I'm playing wrong? Or the game is playing wrong? Are you saying I have the issue? Or the game has the issue?

The game is playing wrong, the game has the issue.

You think saying an obvious statement like not every player plays defense like Gary Payton somehow justifies me being able to score 100 points a game and win, with basically any player I want? Do you see how that is completely failed logic? Nobody said every player should defend like Payton, or that every player was a great defender. There is a balance that needs to be acheived, a happy medium. You can't justify what happens in that video I showed.

In 2K17, the brick wall defense created excessive bumping, absolutely, it was not a perfect game. However, in the half court, you could get by your guy by putting moves together correctly, or getting by your guy off the catch and a first step, and... the better ball handlers and stars in general had a better chance of doing that. There was no driving in a straight line to the hoop every time, we had to work for it. And when you got by your guy, you felt like you accomplished something, it felt good. So while it had its shortcomings, it was more of a challenge, and because it was more of a challenge, you did have to move the ball, or work the post. I don't have to do any of that with 2K18, I literally just have to run in a straight line to the hoop.

This game fell very, very short of my expectations. And as I've stated prior, I just don't understand how these things get into the final product.

NLSC Forum • The defense is  broken (2024)

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